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We
all know that the eBay auction site is, and has been for some
years now, one of Internet's institutions. This site has become
much more than a virtual marketplace for every kind of item;
it's a real global marketplace, an universal store, where
you can find, as the tagline of a department store in London
went way back when, everything from the nail to the locomotive.
We could say that, on eBay, you can find everything from the
microchip to the supersonic airplane.
The reason why eBay is so dear to me, however, is another
one, and it's not strictly tied to its primary function as
a meeting point between sellers and buyers of the most disparate
goods. EBay has acquired, over time, a reference function,
becoming a kind of universal catalogue: if the Web is the
cybernetic, global, infinite inheritor of the Diderot/D'Alembert
Encyclopédie, eBay is its market extension, not a simple
history of objects, but an exhibition, a museum of those,
always changing and renewing itself.
This function makes eBay a precious resource for historians
of a specific Company, as I am for EMT, Thorens, Porsche.
I often hang around eBay not to buy or sell something, just
to gather information. If something exists, sooner or later
it will be offered for sale on eBay, and that is an immediate,
material, practical proof for historians. To corroborate this,
I can tell that during the documentation work on my EMT book,
I often found, offered for auction, turntable models which
were evidently existing, but which were never officially manufactured,
as the 'R80', the '940' and so on. The Company had no documentation
on those, no technician, no user remembered about them; they
wouldn't have been on the book. By contacting the seller and
identifying the products, I have been able to add another
tile to the puzzle of history.
But there are drawbacks to eBay and to on-line auctions in
general. The main one, which is growing in a worrying way,
is the army of swindlers which have gathered around on-line
auctions to take advantage of the situation.
There are many kinds of fraud: the simplest one is that of
selling an item declaring false features, for example describing
an item as 'as new' or describing an item by referencing something
more sought after, trying to confuse or to influence the buyer
(for instance, the Thorens TD 124 original tonearm, the TP-14,
invariably described, by malicious sellers, as an 'EMT' because
of the similarities between the tonearms); these are, however,
venial sins, as the buyer can defend his interests by asking
for more detailed information or for pictures of the item
he's interested in, in a normal, polite exchange between buyer
and seller.
Clearly, these details, and a clear, accurate evaluation of
shipping costs, must be required before bidding on an item;
it's considered unfair to retract a bid because of a disagreement
on this kind of issues. So, let's ask everything we want to
know before bidding.
Then there are the real swindlers. It's really uncommon for
a seller to pocket the auction winner's money and then not
sending the item; as the identity of users is registered and
should be verifiable, this kind of fraud could result in legal
action, which would be long and expensive, certainly not worth
the kind of amount the seller could run away with (tens or
hundreds of dollars). Now the frauds seem to be taking other
ways. The most common one, but, at the same time, the most
dangerous one, is to propose something to a losing bidder,
an item similar to the one he is bidding on. It's called,
in eBay terms, 'Solicitation of an Offsite Sale', and it is
an explicit violation of eBay's rules.
In this case, the swindler scans the list of bidders for a
particular item; as it is possible, from that list, to get
the eBay identity of the bidders, the swindler sends a message
to all of them, in which he offers the same item the auction
seller has put up for auction (the auction seller is, of course,
completely innocent and knows nothing about the fraud) at
a lower price than the auction final one. The swindler hopes
someone will fall for his offer, taking advantage of some
possible psychological mechanisms. The first one is the plain
and simple will to save, to get a bargain: a turntable which
closed for €1100 is offered for €900. The second
one is the fact that a losing bidder might be itching for
the turntable, he's probably green with rage because he wasn't
at home when the auction was ending. The offer gives him a
second chance, which he might be eager to take. A third one,
which I think is not a significant one, but might be for someone,
is the chance to save on eBay charges, the swindler explains
to the potential buyer that, this way, both would save money.
This kind of thing is simple to do and might seem completely
legal. So I would like to show you an example, hiding real
identities (I will explain why below).
On July, 12 I put a GBP750 bid for this EMT 950 'BBC', offered
by a seller I know very well:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3035075237&category=3283&rd=1
(warning: the link might have expired)
I
was immediately outbid by another (legitimate) user, who bid
GBP900. Three days later, I got this message in which I was
offered an identical 950 'BBC':
To
member: ***
From member: ***
Dear eBay Member, Sorry for disturbing you. I am from London,UK
and i have something to offer you. I have like new JAW Dropping
EMT 950 with Ortofon in box.(just like the one you are bidding
on)The price that i want is 900GBP.I accept payment only by
Western Union and i will pay the shipping at UPS.Please check
me on ebay and you will see that i am there for some time.Have
a nice day and reply me a.s.a.p if you are interested!
I am always suspicious of this kind of offer. I have received
some other messages like this in the past, but this time I
tried to go on, to see what would happen. So I replied, asking
for details:
Thanks for your offer. I'd like to see some pictures of
the turntable, especially the side panel with the groove indicator
and the serial number tag (in the front part of the 950.)
Then I'm interested.
Requiring this details is of fundamental importance. When
in doubt, in particular if the item is expensive and if the
photo seems to be an official one, that is taken from a catalogue
or something like that, it's necessary to get a photograph
of the actual sample offered for sale, not a picture of a
similar one. If someone tells you he's not equipped, don't
believe him and don't buy anything from someone with this
kind of attitude. Everybody has a camera, often a digital
one or a scanner, so don't accept excuses, especially for
rare and expensive items. The serial number is a way to identify
the item in a safe way, and, in particular cases, for some
electronic products such as EMT turntables, can tell you if
a particular sample is a special version, worth the purchase.
This particular message had some other features which raised
my suspicion, which I would like to point out to you readers.
Grammar is iffy, technical terms are imprecise, the item description
is a cut-and-paste of the eBay item description. This points
to a different geographic origin than the one declared by
the malicious (let's just say alternative to the official
one for now) seller, who told us he lives in London; furthermore
the seller told me he would pay for UPS shipping, and that's
completely absurd, normally the seller doesn't pay for shipping,
much less for an item weighting 100 Kg as a boxed EMT turntable!
Then he specified Western Union as a payment method, a way
normally used by Asian/Third World people, again quite suspect
for a Londoner. Even greater an anomaly, the fact that the
item for sale on the eBay auction was a rare one, and the
chance of two being for sale at the same time is quite odd.
My wait wasn't a long one. After a few hours, the low-profile
swindler's reply arrived:
Hi, here is the pics. i will not give you the number till
i recive the payment info. have a nice day and i wait your
e-mail!
The fact he wasn't willing to give a serial number is extremely
suspect, obviously, and every kind of intention to deal with
such a guy is immediately void. But the interesting part of
the thing is that the swindler sent a picture, but
in
choosing the one to send he was both unlucky and ignorant.
The attached photo was the following one, one of A TURNTABLE
OF MINE, one of my 950s; the photo is on my site.
http://www.stefanopasini.it/EMT950%20Restoration-Final-2.htm
The swindler simply downloaded the picture, and sent it to
me as the photograph of the turntable he was offering, without
even trying to understand if the turntable in the photo was
similar to the one he was trying to sell me; in fact, they
are quite different. He would obviously disappear the moment
I did the payment. So, this swindler was particularly stupid
and immediately proved to be one, giving his game away in
a more than evident way.
In this case, the swindler was so inept it's funny. Other
times, he could be abler and subtler, less idiotic, and one
could even believe him. I think it's necessary to talk about
this in public, to alert as large a number of people as possible.
I have already posted some messages on boards and mailing
lists (TNT-Audio, Vinyl Asylum, eBay, obviously) and I am
indebted to Bebo Moroni, who is hosting me on these pages
in order to be able to alert more people. This isn't a single,
isolated case; the fact that the number of cases is high was
confirmed by the seller of that particular EMT turntable,
a person I have known for years and to whom I forwarded my
correspondence with the swindler, to inform him of what was
going on. Here is his answer, which includes some other interesting
information:
Hi Stefano,
Thanks for the message. This is now getting to be a very common
problem and it is happening not just to EMT but to the VOX
vintage stuff I sell too.
I have also had one customer who actually fell for this and
is now down to the tune of 1100 GBP for a VOX amp the person
claimed to have. A lot of people who do this are also using
a stolen eBay identity so that it looks like they have amazing
feedback - be very careful if you ever get an email from eBay
or Paypal asking you to log in as this is how the steal you
id. I am considering making my auctions private now to try
and stop this happening, it is not something I like but I
see no alternative at the moment.
I'm glad you exposed this one and I hope it has put a stop
to him, at least
I didn't know about stolen identities, and that's why I am
not disclosing the eBay identity of the swindler: it might
well be the identity of an honest person, completely unaware
of what's happening.
eBay's answer is useful, too: it doesn't offer a cure for
frauds, but it explains how to defend oneself from them. I
don't think that the fact they are discouraging the use of
Western Union is a chance; they also advice to reinforce and
update anti-virus and firewall systems.
Hello,
The recent email sent from this account was the result of
an
unauthorized account takeover. The password was guessed or
discovered and then used to send email like the message you
received. Unfortunately, we were not made aware of this activity
until after the email had been sent. We are now in the process
of getting the account restored to its true owner.
Let me suggest a few ways this takeover could have occurred.
First, if the user had a relatively simple password or password
hint question it is possible that a third party was able to
gain access to the account by guessing the password.
It is also possible that the user could have unknowingly provided
his or her password to another party. Some eBay members have
reported receiving messages asking for User IDs and passwords.
These messages appear to come from eBay Support, but in fact
are not. eBay will never ask for sensitive information of
this nature through email.
Last, there are a number of computer viruses in circulation
that log and record keystrokes. It's recommended that computer
users keep their virus alert software up-to-date, and check
their system often for problems. A firewall for high-speed
Internet users is also highly recommended.
eBay urges caution when purchasing high-priced items, especially
if the price seems too good to be true. We do not recommend
the use of instant cash wire transfer services such as Western
Union and MoneyGram, and we ask that users decline sending
payment in cases where these are the only methods of payment
offered by the seller. Generally, if payment is sent using
an instant cash wire transfer service and the item is not
delivered as promised, no recourse is available for recovering
funds. In most cases, an escrow service should be used when
purchasing high dollar value items. More information on the
benefits and risks of individual payment methods can be found
at:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/payment.html
Please be aware that eBay discourages all transactions
that are initiated by parties other than the seller and the
winning buyer in a completed eBay listing. Sales that take
place outside of eBay carry a potential fraud risk and are
not eligible for eBay services, including feedback, contact
information requests, and the eBay Fraud Protection Program.
You can review the services provided through the eBay Fraud
Protection Program at:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/problems-fraud.html
Regards,
Ian eBay SafeHarbor Investigations Team
What can I say? Obviously eBay is an extraordinarily attractive
marketplace; the honest "parallel seller" may exist,
and he will send you the item he offers. But the risks, in
such a transaction, largely outnumber the possible advantages,
in my opinion; it's much better to make a purchase the safe
way, paying through PayPal via credit card or by a wire transfer.
To sum up: we know that in on-line sales interesting items
can be found at cheap prices and that it is possible to get
to know some particular categories of products to an extent
which was impossible before these systems were common; the
ease of use of the eBay system is incredible, so I can only
congratulate eBay and, overall, recommend it to everybody.
Remember that you can also sell your items very well on eBay,
an important fact because it allows to keep your collection/system
up to date, often with interesting results, even economically.
The most important thing is to stay alert, and to forget the
logic of the absolute bargain, the attempt to outsmart everybody.
In a virtual world counting more and more swinlers (smart
or less) you must keep your eyes open and defend your PC like
a fortress (it's not only a metaphor), putting the best defensive
systems in place. Remember that there is always someone smarter
than we are. The best we can do is trying to hinder their
plots, to avoid to fall into their net.
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www.stefanopasini.it
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